================================================ Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert From: "Lee Reed" To: Date: Sat 13 Jul 2002 23:24:23 -0400 ================================================ nanci, nanci, nanci...this is the new and improved less lame list...no one here is going to catfight over your opinions...at least i hope not...they are, after all, opinions...and we are all entitled to ours... Lee >From: "Nanci" >Reply-To: The New Improved Less Lame List >To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert >Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:59:34 -0400 > >I know what your saying about the shallow part as you say your entitled >too, >but do you mean the lyrics, the music sound, what? I only ask cuz when I >listen to the cd's I can't feel a big diff. in the quality of the music? >And me being me that's what would turn me off most is when I listen and can >tell a cheap, artificial sound is being passed off. >Nanci >BTW (not trying to start any "list" catfights) I've read plenty, only >interesting conversation. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sandy Carter" >To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" >Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:47 PM >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > I don't have a problem with you liking the lyrics, Nanci. I'm glad that >you > > enjoy. > > Personally, I think for the most part, the CD Weathered is more shallow >than > > their previous work, that's all. I'm not sure if it's due to the change >in > > lifestyle that comes with celebrity, or if they are trying to sell CD's. > > Just my thoughts. > > Sandy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nanci" > > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > I don't know, I like the lyrics. I think that most lyrics for most >music > > > are trite, they rthyme and reason all through most songs irregardless >of > > who > > > sings them. > > > > > > Also, let me say that I know nothing about music per se, except that I > > know > > > what sounds good to me and what doesn't. All the rest is over my >head. > > > Nanci > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sandy Carter" > > > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" > > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:14 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > > > > They spoke of the music as if just oozes from their precious pores >when > > > they > > > > wrote Weathered. > > > > I mean, come on. Some of the lyrics are just so trite, it's >nauseating. > > > > "Sometimes life is wicked...." > > > > Their credibility relies heavily on their next real album (not the > > B-side > > > > and soundtrack tunes we keep getting promised). > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Joe Earles" > > > > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:51 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, no doubt the music is good but it's all too obvious that Stapp >and > > > > > Tremonti's writing style have been heavily influenced by their > > celebrity > > > > and > > > > > every album has gravitated a little more toward writing songs that > > will > > > > pull > > > > > big paychecks and further away from simply writing songs. > > > > > > > > > > Another thing that irked me was how they made a point of letting >us > > know > > > > how > > > > > little time it took to write "Weathered" like it was some sort of > > > benefit > > > > or > > > > > something I should be impressed with. I write songs. I could write >11 > > > > songs > > > > > in 3 weeks, too. Would they be any good? Probably, but would they >be > > > > better > > > > > if I wrote them, stepped back, came back to them in a few more >weeks > > and > > > > > started fine-tuning them? Absolutely. Creed opted for the paycheck >and > > > > > against putting out the best record they could this time and the > > result > > > is > > > > a > > > > > bunch of low-key cookie-cutter "written to hit the charts in Rock >AND > > > Pop > > > > > market" types of songs without the same level of emotion that was > > > evident > > > > in > > > > > the first two albums. I just hope that the next album is better, > > that's > > > > > all... > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Nanci" > > > > > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:58 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As much as I'd like to say otherwise I really can't see them > > releasing > > > > any > > > > > > of those 3. FF and WGMB are two of my favorites, like I said > > before, > > > > > since > > > > > > I never hear them on the local stations anyway, does it really > > matter > > > if > > > > > > Creed sucks up to the masses? At least their music is GOOD. > > > > > > Nanci > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Joe Earles" > > > > > > To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:32 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bullets, Freedom Fighter and WGMB. It's all downhill from > > there.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Lee Reed" > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:29 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeah, but name a tune on weathered that DOESN'T fit that > > > category... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Joe Earles" > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The New Improved Less Lame List > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:59:51 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >That's a good choice, even if it does serve to drive >another > > nail > > > > > into > > > > > > > > >their > > > > > > > > >POP-Crossover Coffin... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > >From: "*Kate* ." > > > > > > > > >To: > > > > > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:57 AM > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] VA Beach Concert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Their set was scheduled for 9pm-10:35, according to the > > > security > > > > > > guard > > > > > > > > >in > > > > > > > > > > front of us. They took the stage at about 9:05 and >ended >at > > > > 11pm. > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > what I've read about the earlier concerts I don't think >the > > > set > > > > > list > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > altered from the first dates. The set was pretty much >every > > > > track > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > weathered and then the songs that had been released from >MOP > > > and > > > > > HC. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and if anyone's interested, Scott did say that the > > next > > > > > single > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > going to be "Don't Stop Dancing." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Kate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > > > > http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the >Creed-Discuss > > > > list, > > > > > > > visit: > > > > > > > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the >Creed-Discuss > > > list, > > > > > > visit: > > > > > > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss > > list, > > > > > visit: > > > > > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss >list, > > > > visit: > > > > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss >list, > > > visit: > > > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > > visit: > > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >visit: > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >visit: >http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm